9/11 Conspiracy

Scott · Mayor's Aide Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 53

What do you think of what Michael Parenti says?

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Imperialism101.html
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The preponderant thrust of the European, North American, and Japanese imperial powers has been directed against Africa, Asia, and Latin America. By the nineteenth century, they saw the Third World as not only a source of raw materials and slaves but a market for manufactured goods. By the twentieth century, the industrial nations were exporting not only goods but capital, in the form of machinery, technology, investments, and loans. To say that we have entered the stage of capital export and investment is not to imply that the plunder of natural resources has ceased. If anything, the despoliation has accelerated.

Of the various notions about imperialism circulating today in the United States, the dominant view is that it does not exist. Imperialism is not recognized as a legitimate concept, certainly not in regard to the United States. One may speak of "Soviet imperialism" or "nineteenth-century British imperialism" but not of U.S. imperialism. A graduate student in political science at most universities in this country would not be granted the opportunity to research U.S. imperialism, on the grounds that such an undertaking would not be scholarly. While many people throughout the world charge the United States with being an imperialist power, in this country persons who talk of U.S. imperialism are usually judged to be mouthing ideological blather.
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http://www.ichblog.eu/index.php?option=com_seyret&task=videodirectlink&id=375

deportliberals · Congressman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704

Scott · Mayor's Aide Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 53

deportliberals · Congressman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704

Scott · Mayor's Aide Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 53

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/US_Guat.html
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United Fruit, Eisenhower and the end of reform
United Fruit was a state within the Guatemalan state. It not only owned all of Guatemala's banana production and monopolized banana exports, it also owned the country's telephone and telegraph system, and almost all of the railroad track. In addition to redistributing United Fruit land, the government also began competing with United Fruit in the production and export of bananas.

Important people in the ruling circles of the US, involved with United Fruit Company, used their influence to convince the US government to step in. (Secretary of State John Foster Dulles' law firm had prepared United Fruit's contracts with Guatemala; his brother, CIA Director Allen Dulles, belonged to United Fruit's law firm; John Moors Cabot, Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs, was the brother of a former United Fruit president; President Eisenhower's personal secretary was married to the head of United Fruit's Public Relations Department.)

In 1954, Eisenhower and Dulles decided that Arbenz finally had to go, and the US State Department labeled Guatemala "communist". On this pretext, US aid and equipment were provided to the Guatemalan Army. The US also sent a CIA army and CIA planes. They bombed a military base and a government radio station, and overthrew Arbenz Guzmán, who fled to Cuba.

The coup restored the stranglehold on the Guatemalan economy of both the landed elite and US economic interests. President Eisenhower was willing to make the poor, illiterate Guatemalan peasants pay in hunger and torture for supporting land reform, and for trying to attain a better future for themselves and their families. In order to ensure ever-increasing profits for an American corporation, the US State Department, the CIA, and United Fruit Company had succeeded in taking freedom and land from Guatemala's peasants, unions from its workers, and hope for a democratic Guatemala from all of its people.

Aided by the US, Colonel Castillo Armas became the new president. The US Ambassador furnished Armas with lists of radical opponents to be eliminated, and the bloodletting promptly began. Under Armas, thousands were arrested and many were tortured and killed. United Fruit got all its land back. As an extra present, the Banana Worker's Union was banned. Armas disenfranchised one-third of the voters by barring illiterates from voting. He outlawed all political parties, labor confederations, and peasant organizations. He closed down opposition newspapers and burned "subversive" books. The "Springtime" had ended.
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http://www.antipasministries.com/html/file0000133.htm
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Since the end of World War II, the United States - essentially using the model the United Fruit Company "pioneered" in Guatemala - has organized under its sponsorship and protection a neo-colonial system of client states all over the world. The phenomenon of Guatemala has now been "globalized."
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deportliberals · Congressman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704

Scott · Mayor's Aide Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 53

I'd like to hear your analysis of the section of this video that talks about Guatemala.
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12646.htm

It doesn't have a time counter but the part about Guatemala starts at about sixty five percent of the way through. It can be fast-forwarded.

deportliberals · Congressman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704

Scott · Mayor's Aide Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 53

You seem to be only going on your intuition. That's not enough. An objective person would be starting to wonder whether all of this is true at this point. If this is true, it's verifiable. If you're not in a position to be able to learn Spanish and go live in Latin America for a year or two, try talking to some Latin Americans.
Just showing scorn for something that one hasn't investigated isn't going to impress anyone with any brains.

Here's some stuff for you to think about.
http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html

If you scroll down about twenty percent of the way in that link, you'll see a speech by a guy named Robert Bowman. He's been around and has begun to understand what's really happening. I'd like to hear your opinion of his speech.

deportliberals · Congressman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704

DavidNYC · Congressional Page Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 28

The only tower I wonder about is tower 7. (Not either of the twin towers) It received no impact and yet fire managed to melt the steel (Which is nearly impossible) that sent it tumbling as if it were demolished. It makes no sense.

deportliberals · Congressman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704

THR · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject:

I would not be surprised if it were a conspiracy just so dumbya' could go and finish of his daddy's job....Why else would he want to go into Iraq when Bin laden took credit for the attack on the World Trade Center...I don't understand how building 7 would fall and just collapse whit no airplane hitting it.....It does make sense and I think if everyone had a n open mind they would be able to consider the possibility.

deportliberals · Congressman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704