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A question for those that defend criminality.
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Jenifer Johnson
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: A question for those that defend criminality. Reply with quote

A question for those that defend criminality.

The basic principal of Democracy is mob rule for the benefit of the collective. To put Democracy into the simplest terms so that even a criminal simpleton can understand, it is three wolves and sheep voting on who is for breakfast. Or three men and one woman voting on who gets bloody thirds. As you can see, Democracy is just another form of Collectivism, promoting an illegitimate form of governance, perpetrating crimes against humanity.

The only legitimate form of governance is based on the principles of Sovereignty. Under the principles of Sovereignty, one is in total control of one's actions because they are totally responsible for their actions, which establishes the basis for moral authority. Under the true legitimate authority, the only way I can get you to do something I want, is to provide positive benefit for your actions, by agreement. All human interaction is between individuals by agreement. Without agreement, the action becomes a crime against humanity. The only difference between making love and rape is consent.

No matter what religion one professes to believe in, or what code of law is considered just, the most basic criteria for what can be considered right or wrong is, no one has the right or authority to violate another's individual rights and individual sovereignty. No one on earth is god, so no one has authority or right to control another. A violation of one's individual rights and individual sovereignty, is a crime against humanity.

There is no moral justification for Democracy. Voting is another collectivist mechanism (fraud) to con the sovereign out of their individual rights and sovereignty. I can not vote your individual rights and sovereignty away from you, because it violates sovereignty law (NO one has the right to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty).

How do you criminals live with your criminal mentality?


For a better understanding, here is a 4 part video explaining the difference between individualism and collectivism.
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DavidHenry
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to add that most businesses act like a dictatorship, ie, the employee gets minimal input if any....a tiny handful of people decide almost everything, especially important issues.

People spend more time preparing, going to, and actually working than any other activity.
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DavidHenry
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I beg your pardon LiberalForums, sorry for boring the crap out of you, but I happen to be an anti-semite....I was willing to discuss my views on Judaism, Zionism and Israel, but it seems that this forum has better things to do.

http://www.individual-sovereignty.com/phpBB2/index.php

If you're interested in the truth, you can wander over here.....I'm David Henry there as well.
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SVTman
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and what happens when your fight for individual rights starts takeing awayt the rights and privlages of the majority because you think that your individual rights are more important then life as a hole. you are selfish, hell we all are, you are just to a little higher degree then some poeple. Individualism doesn't work becuase you are not on this earth by your self.
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alias
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anarchy is not the answer and that is what Jennifer is promoting. Jennifer starts off with a negative and then goes downhill from there. She labels democracy wrong right off the bat by saying democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep. Sounds like Jennifer is simply not a happy person.
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Jenifer Johnson
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVTman wrote:
and what happens when your fight for individual rights starts takeing awayt the rights and privlages of the majority


Can't happen in the individual paradigm, because it violates the basis axiom of right from wrong, "no one can violate another's individual rights". Besides, the majority is only a group perception that only exists in your mind.

There is only one legitimate direction of control, which is from the individual to the group, based on self-control. All other control is illegitimate creating a crime.

If you think you have the right to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty, please qualify what is the basis for what establishes right from wrong, in your mind?
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Jenifer Johnson
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going to label me, at least get the label right. The name is Jenifer.

alias wrote:
Anarchy is not the answer and that is what Jennifer is promoting.


Anarchy is the lack of self-control. Individualism takes more self-control not to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty, than collectivism, which is a false construct telling you what to do, as in "God said" or "Government said". Collectivism is mindless obedience to someone else's objectives, which is nothing more than a parasitic relationship.

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Jennifer starts off with a negative


Then murder, rape and theft of your fellow humans, are positive for you. How can you justify your parasitic mentality?

Quote:
Sounds like Jennifer is simply not a happy person.


Sounds like you have a criminal mentality that has just been exposed. Are you the sociopathic tyrant type or parasitic bottom feeding type?

If you think you have the right to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty, please qualify what is the basis for what establishes right from wrong, in your mind?
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DavidHenry
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alias wrote:
Anarchy is not the answer and that is what Jennifer is promoting. .


Do you know much about anarchy?...I can't make head or tails of it, and I was banned from the last anarchy forum I joined....and all I did was tell the truth to the best of my ability.

Btw, I'm a happy person Very Happy Very Happy , I'm also a nice anti-semite Cool
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Jenifer Johnson
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DavidHenry wrote:

I was banned from the last anarchy forum I joined....and all I did was tell the truth to the best of my ability.

Btw, I'm a happy person Very Happy Very Happy , I'm also a nice anti-semite Cool



You were banned because the Anarchist's Mentality is just like the Jewish Mentality of "Might makes right". "God said" is just a camouflaged (chicken shit) version of "Might makes right".
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DavidHenry
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jenifer Johnson wrote:

You were banned because the Anarchist's Mentality is just like the Jewish Mentality of "Might makes right". "God said" is just a camouflaged (chicken shit) version of "Might makes right".


I'll say!!....based on my experience with those particular anarchists, I'm forced to assume that they've interpreted anarchy as a form of authoritarianism, supposedly the very thing they despise.
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SVTman
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jenifer Johnson wrote:
SVTman wrote:
and what happens when your fight for individual rights starts takeing awayt the rights and privlages of the majority


Can't happen in the individual paradigm, because it violates the basis axiom of right from wrong, "no one can violate another's individual rights". Besides, the majority is only a group perception that only exists in your mind.

There is only one legitimate direction of control, which is from the individual to the group, based on self-control. All other control is illegitimate creating a crime.

If you think you have the right to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty, please qualify what is the basis for what establishes right from wrong, in your mind?


ok first i didn't understand half of that i am just a young uneducated person i don't speak like that. if i get what you are saying then takeing the rights of the majority by the minority is impossible. then why are they trying so hard? and i am completely positive you wont like where i get my ideas for right and wrong. The Bible.
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alias
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jenifer Johnson wrote:
If you are going to label me, at least get the label right. The name is Jenifer.

alias wrote:
Anarchy is not the answer and that is what Jennifer is promoting.


Anarchy is the lack of self-control. Individualism takes more self-control not to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty, than collectivism, which is a false construct telling you what to do, as in "God said" or "Government said". Collectivism is mindless obedience to someone else's objectives, which is nothing more than a parasitic relationship.

Quote:
Jennifer starts off with a negative


Then murder, rape and theft of your fellow humans, are positive for you. How can you justify your parasitic mentality?

Quote:
Sounds like Jennifer is simply not a happy person.


Sounds like you have a criminal mentality that has just been exposed. Are you the sociopathic tyrant type or parasitic bottom feeding type?

If you think you have the right to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty, please qualify what is the basis for what establishes right from wrong, in your mind?


And you're an educated dummy. You're a college student aren't you? You talk like one. Lots of fancy words with no meaning. You are a very angry person and I can see why. You probably have a hard time getting anyone to take you seriously. Do you ever wonder why that is?

I spell it "Jennifer". You are enforcing your will on me by pointing out the spelling that is only your opinion and not the collective. How dare you violate my freedom of choice by your heavy-handed tactics. I will not allow you to put me under your authoritarian bourgeois servitude. I am a free thinker. You're a bigot.
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DavidHenry
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVTman wrote:

ok first i didn't understand half of that i am just a young uneducated person i don't speak like that. if i get what you are saying then takeing the rights of the majority by the minority is impossible. then why are they trying so hard? and i am completely positive you wont like where i get my ideas for right and wrong. The Bible.


No such thing as God, therefore the Bible is the word of man, and without an objective basis for establishing what's right and wrong, the Bible will be full of "shit".

FYI, political forums don't lend themselves to those who're uninformed and uneducated, so I'm not sure why you're here.....you should study philosophy, the philosophy of science and science in general before you attempt to "get the hang" of politics.
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DavidHenry
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alias wrote:
Sounds like Jennifer is simply not a happy person.

And you're an educated dummy. You're a college student aren't you?

are a very angry person and I can see why.

You're a bigot.



Seems like alias thinks consistent ad hom qualifies as meaningful and civilized discussion....the truth is, most intelligent and mature individuals will have written you off as an impatient fool that's been placed under extreme psychological pressure by JJ's text.

Either grow up or STFU.
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Jenifer Johnson
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVTman,

There is nothing wrong with admitting when one does not understand, it is only wrong when one refuse to try to understand by attacking others. No matter how much I want you to understand, I can not do your thinking for you; and you can not do my thinking for me. We perceive the world from our five senses and without our five senses one would be in their own world alone.

The concept of group is only a perception in your mind that only exists for you, because I don't use your five senses. So, majority or minority are only positions in the collectivist paradigm that has been created for you, so you won't concentrate on your individual rights and sovereignty.

Every issue is framed in a conservative versus liberal, republican versus democrat, white versus black framework, because government creates a left/right paradigm to give you a false choice. The objective is to get the focus off of Government. The reason why this problem/action/solution tactic works, is because people are told they can't think from an individual perspective.

Government creates a false right-left paradigm within the structure of government, which excludes the individual, so from the group perspective, we have a side in which we think we are fighting for our own cause and own protection. But, in reality, they don't want you to understand your individual perspective, so the power remains in a few hands with no representation.

The objective is to divide and conquer to give you a false choice which violates your individual rights and sovereignty, creating an organized crime syndicate called government. The Bible is an operational manual that established the original organized crime syndicate.
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