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deportliberals
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| James Rottnek wrote: | | On where I got it, it was from a book by jimmy Carter. On the oil, I said it is about "controlling" the oil. Not using it. The fact of power or control drives almost everyones politics these days. |
Name the book? And, Jimmy Carter will probably go down as the worst president of the 20th century due to his glaring failures in foreign affairs and his totaly mishandling of the so-called oil crisis during his presidency...turned out his oil policies made things worst for this nation. So, what the hell does a fool like Jimmy Carter know about WHO controls foreign oil.
First off, this nation does not control any foreign oil, period! The Cartel known as OPEC(13 nations) are the rulers of foreign oil and they set the prices and the terms that the majority of foreign oil will be sold for and how much will be sold. Anybody who doesn't know this basic fact should not open his/her mouth about oil...includes that fool Jimmy Carter. |
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Democraticcello
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| This war will probably never end it will enter an endless cycle until we have a full democtratic presidency and congress. The bullshit about there being WMD's was lies created by this presidency to make the american public think that this war is justified. Also you cannot declare a war on a certain thing such as terrorism. History has proven to us that you cannot do this and anyone that does will surely fail. |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| Democraticcello wrote: | This war will probably never end it will enter an endless cycle until we have a full democtratic presidency and congress.
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According to the 2pm ABC News report I just listened to, the iraqi insurgents have approached the U.S. military seeking a cease fire.
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The bullshit about there being WMD's was lies created by this presidency to make the american public think that this war is justified.
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Pure bullsh*t!!! All three intel sources(U.S., Britians M-5 & France) had intel showing Saddam had WMDs. I have posted here repeatedly direct quotes from the Clinton administration declaring that Saddam had WMDs and, in case you've forgotten, we all get to see Clinton's ugly face on TV advising us in Dec 1998 that he had launched air attacks against Iraq to take out Iraq's nuke and chemical programs. Any time you'd like me to post your buddy's words about Saddam having WMDs let me know. And, if you'd bother to read the 9-11 Commission Report you'll see that it cited poor intel as well. If there was any factual evidence that Bush actually lied about pre-war intel, you can bet your liberal ass that you would see it splashed all over the front pages of the New York Times and pissants like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would be shouting such evidence from the roof tops. There is not a sentilla of evidence that Bush lied about any pre-war intel!!! There's only stupid, ignorant liberal lies and rumors!
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Also you cannot declare a war on a certain thing such as terrorism. History has proven to us that you cannot do this and anyone that does will surely fail. |
Really...we declared a 50-year cold war on soviet communism(a thing) and the last time I checked soviet communsim was defeated. Look at a map...it no longer says Soviet Union...it says Russia!! Furthermore, the silly issue of semnatics that you are playing with has no relevance in real life or on the issues of war or warfare. We delcared war on nazi fascism and fought nazi-fascism and the last time I checked we won and today nazi fascism is outlawed by the german government...same thing with Japanese imperalism. So, I guess in your world we should sit back and do nothing because, according to you, we can't declare war against a thing, ha,ha,ha,ha, ha,ha................. |
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Anonymous Mind
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with the Iraq war is that after all the new "missions" that were proposed and executed in the Iraq war, the US cannot pull out.
If the US pullsout it will be a sign of weakness, and will inspire many middle eastern groups and nations to be more aggressive.
The problem is that right now the US is in s sort of stale mate, it is trying to help establish a democrocy in Iraq, but more violence is shown from many terroirst and civilan groups. The US is saying it wont leave until it helps Iraq in its goal, but obiusly if the population wants it out an resorts to violence the US has to fight back. And the groups hate the US more, Ts' are more of a problem, the US cant just pull out.
So the only thing the US can do is eliminate those groups, but they are the people of Iraq, about 50%, so is that really helping the Iraquies? |
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Anonymous Mind
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| deportliberals wrote: | | James Rottnek wrote: | | On where I got it, it was from a book by jimmy Carter. On the oil, I said it is about "controlling" the oil. Not using it. The fact of power or control drives almost everyones politics these days. |
Name the book? And, Jimmy Carter will probably go down as the worst president of the 20th century due to his glaring failures in foreign affairs and his totaly mishandling of the so-called oil crisis during his presidency...turned out his oil policies made things worst for this nation. So, what the hell does a fool like Jimmy Carter know about WHO controls foreign oil.
First off, this nation does not control any foreign oil, period! The Cartel known as OPEC(13 nations) are the rulers of foreign oil and they set the prices and the terms that the majority of foreign oil will be sold for and how much will be sold. Anybody who doesn't know this basic fact should not open his/her mouth about oil...includes that fool Jimmy Carter. |
I just had a thought about this, a way to make huge amounts of money is to buy the right to buy/own something. You see? in reality, its not yours therefore risk is very small, but the owner cannot sell it because the right to sell it does not belong to him anymore. Thus you control who to sell to at minimum risk, and you can set your own price.
Unfourtunately, this would work if the US did not need oil, otherwise it would make the US very profittable. |
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bbalegere
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Iraq war will be difficult to end.
Until a stable democratic governemnt is established in Iraq,US cannot withdraw all their troops.
This will always be difficult as insurgents are always creating problems.
So until a stable government is established war will continue. |
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Cicero
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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This will be determined only by our citizens and our parliament. If the citizens
want to stop it, they can do it. Ill say we are not doing enough to stop the war |
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goldeneye
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| I think it will take a long time. Extremists will not give up and America will not move back until they get their oil with themselves. This war is crazy :\ |
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versu23
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| I am not an american but my country is near USA in this war and I am happy because of this. The irakians are savages and only some powers like USA or Great Britain can install peace in the area. |
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Anonymous Mind
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| where are you from if its not a secret? |
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RageD
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I think the "war" itself still has years to go. How long do I think it will take for us to withdraw our troops? Personally, I don't think we will. We're still occupying countries such as Germany from the acts of WWII. We may be in the middle east for the rest of the United States' time of being a Super power or at least for the next couple of generations.
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Strategos
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We shall be there until the AlQauda and other terrorist and anti-UN groups lose their power and influence over the people.
The way to end the war depends as much on words as on bullets |
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THR
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Location: Wisconsin
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| We should never have invaded Iraq and become an occupying country. This is another Vietnam only instead of Jungle warfare we are now in Urban Warfare. Dubya' is power hungry and he spends more time on vacation then he does in DC. I wonder what it would take for the conservatives to see that we are in a terrible situation and who made the US the police force for the world. Dumbya' did not follow the United nations and rushed in for pure greed. D!ck is no better he is a war profiteer. When we have righteous people serving our country will be the only time we will have any credibility which we lost almost 8 years ago! It's time that we take back our country and bring home our soldiers..... |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Anonymous Mind wrote: |
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I just had a thought about this, a way to make huge amounts of money is to buy the right to buy/own something. You see? in reality, its not yours therefore risk is very small, but the owner cannot sell it because the right to sell it does not belong to him anymore. Thus you control who to sell to at minimum risk, and you can set your own price.
Unfourtunately, this would work if the US did not need oil, otherwise it would make the US very profittable. |
Yeah...it's called buying "Futures"....done on the commodity markets everyday. |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| goldeneye wrote: | | I think it will take a long time. Extremists will not give up and America will not move back until they get their oil with themselves. This war is crazy :\ |
You need to go to the Dept of Energy website. There you will find that Iraqi oil accounts for only 1/20th of our daily import needs. In case you forgot, iraqi oil had been off the market for months as a result of war...
Point is....WE DON'T NEED IRAQI OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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