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Dolly
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Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 247
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
"The Liberal forums IS a convervative community"

You'll have to bear with my cos I'm English, but I've basically gone back to basics and had a look at both the Liberal and Democratic manifestos, to really define who is trying to achieve what.

And, I'm finding that the lines between what each party say and then actually do are becoming merged, so it's difficult to define what is a liberal or conservative statement.
Am I making sense?

I'm not trying to flame at all here, in fact these forums have been seriously enlightening for me.

Would somebody come out with a policy that is pure conservative to give me a handle on this thing?
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Mrs Wolfie
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 117
PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In the simplest of terms, dolly, Liberals believe in the "its all about me" mentality- its my body, I can make the choice, its my government, I can run it myself, me me me me.

Conservatives, not so much. It is not my right to decide to abort, etc.

Does that help?
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Dolly
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Joined: 17 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep, thanks Mrs Wolfie.

It appears that there are definitely distinctions between the parties. Not as clearly defined here anymore.
In fact I think they are running "Spot the Difference" competitions!
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Mrs Wolfie
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laughing

Good one, Dolly. You still have some turbulent times over your way- I was so sorry about the bombings last year. You know they caught some wicked cretins plotting to hit New York again..
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Dolly
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was living in a caravan in Wales, when that happened and didn't have TV access, so I was hitting the pc like a mad woman.

Thing is, one way or another, we seem to have had terrorism for years. I seem to think though that we were hit by the IRA much more frequently. Stuff seemed to be in the news practically on a weekly basis.
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Professor McGardee
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Joined: 27 Aug 2006
Posts: 35
Location: In the Classroom
PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mrs Wolfie wrote:
In the simplest of terms, dolly, Liberals believe in the "its all about me" mentality- its my body, I can make the choice, its my government, I can run it myself, me me me me.

Conservatives, not so much. It is not my right to decide to abort, etc.

Does that help?


Whoa...stop the presses..we have us a bonafide conservative here...

Number trait of a conservative dolly is their bashing liberals. Please note there was not one definition given you about what a conservative is, just all anti-liberals.

Conservatives believe in doing things the way they were done in the past...basically, the old boys' school. they hate women's rights, black rights, gay rights, etc. They love war and think that's the best way to stimulate an economy. They would rather have their tax dollars go to help the rich get richer than to even think one cent is going to someone who is ripping off the system and yet poor. (They did not get upset with the Halliburton theft of over $5 billion dollars of tax dollars in Iraq).

The conservative does not believe in separation of church and state and would just as soon make all of the United Stated into a theocracy of the New Wave Fundamentalists Religion.

Liberals are strongly committed to the Middle class, to making sure the edicts of separation of church and state stand, to allow each person freedoms of privacy and their lives and religion in this nation. Programs of compassion and social welfare are the priority of federal funding and business needs regulated in order not to abuse the American worker.

Help?
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phil
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Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 174
Location: Seattle
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
sorry for the break! I am back!

Youth is liberalism.
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julian4239
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Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 211
PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Professor McGardee"]
Mrs Wolfie wrote:

Conservatives believe in doing things the way they were done in the past...basically, the old boys' school. they hate women's rights, black rights, gay rights, etc. They love war and think that's the best way to stimulate an economy. They would rather have their tax dollars go to help the rich get richer than to even think one cent is going to someone who is ripping off the system and yet poor. (They did not get upset with the Halliburton theft of over $5 billion dollars of tax dollars in Iraq).




You're kidding right? You were just saying that Conservative bash liberals?

Hello?
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dzwonfv
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Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Posts: 13
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dolly wrote:
Don't you think that the views of many political parties now appear to have become blurred, despite their manifestos?

We have the conservatives, labour and liberals as our main parties, but you can't really spot the difference between them anymore.

It's why labour and Bliar have been in power for so long, no one party or person stands out enough to collect meaningful numbers of votes.


I must disagree with you.
I believe their manifestos while clear should be published more frequently so that people?s minds are clear.
Liberals and conservatives are on opposite sides of each other, where the labour party is a British version of democrat hence the liberal side.
Tony Blair was always considered a liberal, up until he sided with a conservative and going along with the conservative view of preemptive strike. His going along with Bush severed his ties to the liberal community and consequently resulted in his political death.
Both are definitely not blurred, peoples minds may be blurred, and that is why the parties manifestos must be published periodically to keep the peoples minds clear.
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dzwonfv
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Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Posts: 13
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mrs Wolfie wrote:
In the simplest of terms, dolly, Liberals believe in the "its all about me" mentality- its my body, I can make the choice, its my government, I can run it myself, me me me me.

Conservatives, not so much. It is not my right to decide to abort, etc.

Does that help?


Mrs. Wolfie,
I believe you?re a little bit confused; conservatives are about me, me, and me. I (me) did it so they should do it also. I (me) suffered so they should suffer also. I (me) made all this money so why should I (me) pay more in taxes then them. This is my (me) government that?s why they should do like I (me) say.
Liberals say our (not me) government is of, by, and for the people. We (all) not I (me) the people. We (not I) the people to form a more perfect union establish the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They say it is our (not my) bodies and we (not I) deserve the right to make that decision about abortion.
Yes Wolfie, you got it backwards, the conservative are all about me, me, me and only me.
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julian4239
Mayor


Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 211
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
dzwonfv wrote:
Mrs Wolfie wrote:
In the simplest of terms, dolly, Liberals believe in the "its all about me" mentality- its my body, I can make the choice, its my government, I can run it myself, me me me me.

Conservatives, not so much. It is not my right to decide to abort, etc.

Does that help?


Mrs. Wolfie,
I believe you?re a little bit confused; conservatives are about me, me, and me. I (me) did it so they should do it also. I (me) suffered so they should suffer also. I (me) made all this money so why should I (me) pay more in taxes then them. This is my (me) government that?s why they should do like I (me) say.
Liberals say our (not me) government is of, by, and for the people. We (all) not I (me) the people. We (not I) the people to form a more perfect union establish the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They say it is our (not my) bodies and we (not I) deserve the right to make that decision about abortion.
Yes Wolfie, you got it backwards, the conservative are all about me, me, me and only me.


That's interesting. I could argue that Liberals are about me, me, and me. Relying on the government for hand outs sound like I'd rather not work and the goverment owes me something. There's no accountability.

I can understand that there are some that might need assistance, but seriously, do you think that everyone who utilizes entitlement programs are completely sincere? 46% of people who claim to be poor under US Census, own homes. You want poor, try going to a third world country.

Try living in western europe. They have whatt you want. Chances are you may not find a job, but you can rely on government handouts. Conservatives are about equal opportunity, not equal results.
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nate
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Joined: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 7
Location: Florida
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I do like to hear more than one side in a debate. I am glad there are both conservatives and liberals here. There is too much name calling in politics and not enough rational debate.
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shinningstar
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Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 20
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A debate for me serves as spice to make the topic more interesting and worth reading for. I like to hear people exchanging ideas and points of view. I'm a conservative but in a case to case basis.
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Anonymous Mind
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Joined: 31 May 2007
Posts: 56
Location: US
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOL the ironic thing about this Forum is that it is a Liberal Forum, but it is basically being run by conservatives, and anti-liberal groups.
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deportliberals
Congressman


Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anonymous Mind wrote:
LOL the ironic thing about this Forum is that it is a Liberal Forum, but it is basically being run by conservatives, and anti-liberal groups.


What anti-liberal groups are you talking about??? Do you even know what you're talking about....doubtful.....
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