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naidu Mayor's Aide
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 51
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:27 am Post subject: Why is polygamy not legalized? |
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When an individual has constitutional right to engage in any form of consensual sexual relationship with any number of partners. Thus, a person can live with multiple partners and even sire children from different partners so long as they do not marry. However, when that same person accepts a legal commitment for those partners "as a spouse," we jail them. So what?s big deal in legalizing polygamy?  |
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lpstong Mayor's Aide
Joined: 02 Dec 2005 Posts: 51 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Well it's against the law first thing. And it was only against federal law after the mormons were practicing polygamy. Don't misunderstand but the mormon church DOES NOT ALLOW polygamy. If one does they are excommunicated. They follow the federal laws. Its other relegious sects that practice it now. At the time there was a bias against mormons. And up till about the late 1970's it was legal to shot and kill mormons in the state of Missiouri or Mississippi, one of the two.
This is such a sticky area now. Because if one door is open than another is also. Many people will say if gay marriage is made legal. Than many say that polygamy should made legal. Many people say be open minded to others beliefs and orientation yet it is not often considered into law.
And the law against polygamy isn't really against polygamy it's against consensual sensuality.
A good case of consensual sex is the Tom Green case. He is a member of the Fudametalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter- Day Saints.(Not a Mormon hes from another religous sect) is on trial for having multiple wives the youngest is 13. By far marrying a 13 year is against the law but how much consenses be given in this situation if your husband is significantly older than you and a leader in your community. Ummm I would say incest in this moment, fear and what not comes into action. And the girls parents approved of the marriage. Yet again a child obeying the parent. How much is there of a consensual saying from the 13 year girl.
In fact US Supreme Court Justice Anthony Justice has said there is no bases for polygamy to be unconstitutional. Meanin polygamy should be legal. He said this in response to Texas overturning the sodomy law. It was in due to gay marriages. The sodomy laws were not put there to prevent gays from having relations. But do to the fact of children and woman in abuse cases. So now if one gets sodomized against their will there can't be a law charged against the criminal.
So see there is alot of sticky situations when it comes to laws. One it protects only certain citizens. For the greater good who should the law protect. Other than that than the law needs to be rewritten in such a way that it protects all citizens. |
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phil Mayor
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 174 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:59 am Post subject: |
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I think that if this was legal, it would cause all sorts of problems.
I agree with lpstong.
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MHJ Mayor's Aide
Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 118
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| For it to be legal it would have to be passed by the state legislatures and signed by the governor. Somehow I don't see that happening any time soon |
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justagirl Congressional Page
Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| Legalizing polygamy would be insane. I think that it would be okay if it were just say 3 adult women and one adult man who wanted to marry but that is not the case. These women are having children and the children are forced to be their own fathers wives. I mean it really doesn't get any more twited than this. If they were to legalize polygamy as we know it there would be more birth defects than this country is prepared to handle. |
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TheFrugalPlace Congressional Page
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Mt. Shasta CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I think it should be legal IF and ONLY IF the participants are both self-supporting and of legal age.
Right now those colonies use a ton of aide to support them and their 50 children... |
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reviewer Mayor's Aide
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 145
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Why would it be insane? It's only because we're afraid of polygamy and we have such strong religious roots to our traditional view of marriage in the West. In other cultures, it's not uncommon.
However, it won't happen. The Religious Right will make sure of that -- we can't possibly make our OWN decisions. |
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Coda1108 Mayor's Aide
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 130 Location: PA
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmmmm..... I can't handle one wife.... why would I want three? |
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schatzi Mayor's Aide
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 59 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| I would not let polygamy be legalized. It would be unfair for those women who are victims of this. |
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reviewer Mayor's Aide
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 145
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Who is a "victim"? People make their own choices. Women are not mindless, helpless victims - I resent that implication. |
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classyred Mayor's Aide
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 68
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: reply |
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| I think that it is insane to even think about legalizing it, i think it would not only cause a bunch of problems but why get married in the first place if you feel the need to be with more than one person, not to mention how does this make these women feel. |
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AFIN Congressional Page
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Why is polygamy not legalized? |
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| naidu wrote: | When an individual has constitutional right to engage in any form of consensual sexual relationship with any number of partners. Thus, a person can live with multiple partners and even sire children from different partners so long as they do not marry. However, when that same person accepts a legal commitment for those partners "as a spouse," we jail them. So what?s big deal in legalizing polygamy?  | One of the big reasons is taxes. The goverment noticed that if you have to many spouses then you could have a huge tax break. |
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deportliberals Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 704
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| reviewer wrote: | | Who is a "victim"? People make their own choices. Women are not mindless, helpless victims - I resent that implication. |
One-man-one-woman marriage is a religious-moral precept that dates back to ancient civilizations. This concept has been codified many ways, many times including biblically where the bible notes that a man will leave his parents and his home to cleave to his wife. Today, we see this concept being reinforced legally as state legislators define(or redefine) marriage as "one woman, one man."
In most civilized nations, polygamy is considered to be amoral and akin to other moral failures such as prostitution, etc.
I know I'm on very safe ground when I say that the overwhelming majority of woman today would never subscribe to polygamy and the few cultures where it is still practiced today are seeing it in a state of decline. |
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