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Anonymous Mind
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Joined: 31 May 2007
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 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: Should Spanish Become the second language in America? |
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Its is no secret that no one is trully American, not even the Native Americans.
America was origially born as a place where people moved to start new lives, to create a gov that suited everyone, so that everyone was treated equal despite their backrounds and beliefs.
Americans today came from all over the world, mainly Europe.
So the question is should spanish become the offiacial second lang in the US simply because our whole economy is dependant on the hispano immigration workers? Now everywhere I see good jobs require spanish speakers. So an immigrant has a bigger chance to get the Job than the American citizen. i personally speak 3 langs ( english, russian, and spanish)but very few whites speak any other langs than English.
Concidering America is a mix of nations, should Spanish be the official second lang in America because our economy depends so much on the hispano imigrant work force? |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Should Spanish Become the second language in America? |
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| Anonymous Mind wrote: |
So the question is should spanish become the offiacial second lang in the US simply because our whole economy is dependant on the hispano immigration workers?
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First, your stated belief that OUR WHOLE ECONOMY IS DEPENDENT ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is just beyond absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!! We didn't need the illegals before they began their invasion and we sure as hell don't need them now. These invaders are uneducated, unskilled lawbreakers who function at the bottom of our economy and definitely do NOT represent the force driving our WHOLE economy as you claim above. For example, only 20% of our crops are still being handpicked...the other 80% is harvested mechanically.
Prior to the illegal invasion, all our hotels and other service industries had americans doing service level jobs because the going wage scale had not been depressed by millions of illegal invaders flooded those job markets. Furthermore, any business claiming that they need illegal alien invaders to stay in business should go bankrupt as far as I am concerned, and I am sure most of america will agree with me on that. SCREW any american business that can't survive without illegal alien labor. We don't need or want such businesses.
The free market is a beautiful thing...it is the ultimate survivor. Throw out all 15 million illegals tomorrow and in a very short amount of time a new market for all those jobs will re-appear and will be filled legally...that's what the free market does...link supply with demand!!!! |
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Strategos
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Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Srry, i dont know what i was thinking, definatelly not the whole econmy, that would be absurd(forgive my mistakes), but a conciderable power in the workforce. You see hispanos doing the jobs that you wouldnt think are important, but because only they are doing it, gives them power in economy.
Sorry about privios statemt. |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Strategos wrote: | Srry, i dont know what i was thinking, definatelly not the whole econmy, that would be absurd(forgive my mistakes), but a conciderable power in the workforce. You see hispanos doing the jobs that you wouldnt think are important, but because only they are doing it, gives them power in economy.
Sorry about privios statemt. |
Fair enough...but let's not continue this lie about hispanics doing jobs that americans won't. Say something like that in black communities or lower income white communities and they will kill you. These people WERE DOING THOSE jobs and were pushed out when employers began paying slave-labor wages to illegals. Who do you think had doing all those service jobs before the 15 million illegals invaded this country.
All those jobs were getting done and fair wages were being paid for that kind of work until the illegals invaded and destroyed those job markets.
Go talk to the blacks who can't get construction jobs because employers only hire illegals because they can pay them slave wages and don't have to worry about workers rights, etc. |
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Beststash
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Joined: 23 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: |
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I think most Americans are in favor of new immigration laws with a few changes. No access to social services until you have paid into the system. Employers must be given very harsh penalties for employment of illegals and no excuses. This issue is nothing more than the 21st century version of segregation. The majority will never go quietly but because they have proved that you can't believe a word they say (GOP politicians) most Americans know that it is just a continuation of their corruption and immoral values.
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Strategos
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Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| deportliberals wrote: | | Strategos wrote: | Srry, i dont know what i was thinking, definatelly not the whole econmy, that would be absurd(forgive my mistakes), but a conciderable power in the workforce. You see hispanos doing the jobs that you wouldnt think are important, but because only they are doing it, gives them power in economy.
Sorry about privios statemt. |
Fair enough...but let's not continue this lie about hispanics doing jobs that americans won't. Say something like that in black communities or lower income white communities and they will kill you. These people WERE DOING THOSE jobs and were pushed out when employers began paying slave-labor wages to illegals. Who do you think had doing all those service jobs before the 15 million illegals invaded this country.
All those jobs were getting done and fair wages were being paid for that kind of work until the illegals invaded and destroyed those job markets.
Go talk to the blacks who can't get construction jobs because employers only hire illegals because they can pay them slave wages and don't have to worry about workers rights, etc. |
Srry, i must have exspressed myself incorrectly; thats exactly waht i mean. The illigals are gettting the jobs because of the low wages and other abuse they get, and because they can't do anything about it, i mean they can't go complaining to the cops. while other us citizens are losing jobs to the immigrants because of this. |
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deportliberals
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Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| Beststash wrote: | I think most Americans are in favor of new immigration laws with a few changes. No access to social services until you have paid into the system. Employers must be given very harsh penalties for employment of illegals and no excuses. This issue is nothing more than the 21st century version of segregation. The majority will never go quietly but because they have proved that you can't believe a word they say (GOP politicians) most Americans know that it is just a continuation of their corruption and immoral values.
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First....we DO NOT NEED ANY NEW IMMIGRATION LAWS, PERIOD. The current immigration law already has all the items you mentioned above. Under current law, the border fence should have already be built some 20 years ago! Under current law, employers who hire illegals are supposed to get heavy fines and jail time. Under current law no illegals are supposed to have any access to social security benefits. Under current law, ALL ILLEGALS are to be rounded up and deported immediatly, unless it is determined that, for political reasons, returning them to their home country would result in death.
There is NO problem with current immigration law other than enforcement of our current law.
And, I can't believe your dumb punk ass is blaiming the current illegal immigration failure on republicans when it has been democrats(in the form of Ted Kennedy) who has been changing our immigration law since 1965 to allow illegals to come here without worry of enforcement. It is YOU insane liberals who have been practicing an open borders policy in this nation and if it wasn't for the republicans last week who blocked your liberal senators from passing that goddamn illegal amnesty bill, we would now have some 20 million illegals with american citizenship, your moron.
I'd much rather deport liberals and keep the illegals.... |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Should Spanish Become the second language in America? |
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| Anonymous Mind wrote: |
Concidering America is a mix of nations, should Spanish be the official second lang in America because our economy depends so much on the hispano imigrant work force? |
No....and hell no! There should never be an official second language for this nation, period. English...screw those who live in this country and don't want to learn english. Besides, english is the only true international language on the planet. English is a mandatory subject taught in most civilized countries today.
For example, you cannot be a commercial pilot and not know how to speak english. All commercial pilots around the world must know how to speak english or they cannot fly airplanes commercially. Same rule applies to all major militaries around the world. Top officers are expected to learn english.
Furthermore, Spanish is an inferior language with a smaller vocabulary, fewer adjectives, fewer nouns, etc. Why the hell would an english speaking nation allow an inferior language like spanish to become official in any way???? |
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Strategos
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Joined: 01 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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simply because right now if u apply for a job at the same time that a spanishspeaker, the spanish speaker will almost certanelly get the job.
There was an article in the paper a couple of weeks ago stating that hispanics and spanish speakers have a greater chance of getting jobs than americans because they can speak spanish. |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Strategos wrote: | simply because right now if u apply for a job at the same time that a spanishspeaker, the spanish speaker will almost certanelly get the job.
There was an article in the paper a couple of weeks ago stating that hispanics and spanish speakers have a greater chance of getting jobs than americans because they can speak spanish. |
Yes...I've also read about this situation. Don't worry, soon there will be federal law mandating that all federal gov't functions must be conducted in english and that spanish crap will start disappearing very quickly. |
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