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Pibber
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 Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: Casualties |
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| If the fighting in Iraq continues at it's current level, we will have sustained approximately an additional 1500 killed and 10,000 wounded by the time the next president takes office. It is a virtual certainty that the next president (who ever he is) will withdraw our troops from Iraq. How do we justify their sacrifice for a temporary political expediency? What is the point? |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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| Pibber wrote: | | If the fighting in Iraq continues at it's current level, we will have sustained approximately an additional 1500 killed and 10,000 wounded by the time the next president takes office. It is a virtual certainty that the next president (who ever he is) will withdraw our troops from Iraq. How do we justify their sacrifice for a temporary political expediency? What is the point? |
The american casualty rate in Iraq is the lowest ever sustained for any war we've fought for more than two years.
To put things in proper context, it took ten years of fighting in Nam to produce 58,000 american deaths. It took only three days at Gettysburgh to produce 53,000 american deaths. In iraq, it has taken a little more than six years to produce roughly 3500 american deaths.
Whenever you hear a lib like this one whining about american casualties in Iraq, you can be very assured that this lib doesn't give two flying craps about our troops. His only interest is to use our casualties to advance his lib-leftist politics. |
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Pibber
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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| deportliberals wrote: | | Pibber wrote: | | If the fighting in Iraq continues at it's current level, we will have sustained approximately an additional 1500 killed and 10,000 wounded by the time the next president takes office. It is a virtual certainty that the next president (who ever he is) will withdraw our troops from Iraq. How do we justify their sacrifice for a temporary political expediency? What is the point? |
The american casualty rate in Iraq is the lowest ever sustained for any war we've fought for more than two years.
To put things in proper context, it took ten years of fighting in Nam to produce 58,000 american deaths. It took only three days at Gettysburgh to produce 53,000 american deaths. In iraq, it has taken a little more than six years to produce roughly 3500 american deaths.
Whenever you hear a lib like this one whining about american casualties in Iraq, you can be very assured that this lib doesn't give two flying craps about our troops. His only interest is to use our casualties to advance his lib-leftist politics. |
I am pretty far from being a lib-lefist. But you believe what ever makes you feel good. And as for my agenda; much more personal than political. I am sure it's easy for some people to talk about casualties in such a detached fashion. Particularly when they risk or sacrifice nothing. |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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I am pretty far from being a lib-lefist. But you believe what ever makes you feel good. And as for my agenda; much more personal than political. I am sure it's easy for some people to talk about casualties in such a detached fashion. Particularly when they risk or sacrifice nothing. |
Oh...I don't do the "feel-good" stuff where my beliefs are concerned as you suggest above. I leave that crap to the libs.
My statements are based on supportable fact....which...by the way...all I've seen from so far is personal insults, name-calling, and a feeble attempt above to use undocumented numbers to clain that 1500 more americans will be killed. As a lib, you obviously know nothing about warfare...future casaulties will be determined by specific tactics and the will of the enemy...not by juvenile numbers averaging or pitiful attempts at projecting meaningless numbers.
Given I KNOW you've never served in our armed forces it is beyond pitiful that you would dare assume that I have not. I did my time in Nam, and I come from a 100% military family representing three branches...air force, army and marines. I am quite comfortable talking about casualities because, unlike you, I have sacrificed for my country. |
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Pibber
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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| deportliberals wrote: | | Pibber wrote: |
I am pretty far from being a lib-lefist. But you believe what ever makes you feel good. And as for my agenda; much more personal than political. I am sure it's easy for some people to talk about casualties in such a detached fashion. Particularly when they risk or sacrifice nothing. |
Oh...I don't do the "feel-good" stuff where my beliefs are concerned as you suggest above. I leave that crap to the libs.
My statements are based on supportable fact....which...by the way...all I've seen from so far is personal insults, name-calling, and a feeble attempt above to use undocumented numbers to clain that 1500 more americans will be killed. As a lib, you obviously know nothing about warfare...future casaulties will be determined by specific tactics and the will of the enemy...not by juvenile numbers averaging or pitiful attempts at projecting meaningless numbers.
Given I KNOW you've never served in our armed forces it is beyond pitiful that you would dare assume that I have not. I did my time in Nam, and I come from a 100% military family representing three branches...air force, army and marines. I am quite comfortable talking about casualities because, unlike you, I have sacrificed for my country. |
You know jack. And what you did forty years ago doesn't give you a pass for life on everything. As to my service, that's something I will only discuss in private with other combat veterans. I will not refer to those experiances in any of my posts to gain some petty credibility. I think to do so amounts to cheap exploitation and dishonors the people I served with. I will however, feel free to use this forum to discuss my son's experiances any time I like. He is a Navy Corpsman. Goes back in a couple of months for his second tour in Iraq. With a promotion and transfer to another unit. Another rifle company. Oh by the way. What did you say you were risking now? What is it again you sacrifice in Iraq. |
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Beststash
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To put it in simple terms - the American soldiers who have dies and wounded in Iraq were totally wasted. No matter how you would like to spin it - it is obvious that this administration has betrayed the trust of the American people.
Support the Troops - Bring them home NOW!!!
Peace |
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Pibber
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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| Pibber wrote: | | deportliberals wrote: | | Pibber wrote: |
I am pretty far from being a lib-lefist. But you believe what ever makes you feel good. And as for my agenda; much more personal than political. I am sure it's easy for some people to talk about casualties in such a detached fashion. Particularly when they risk or sacrifice nothing. |
Oh...I don't do the "feel-good" stuff where my beliefs are concerned as you suggest above. I leave that crap to the libs.
My statements are based on supportable fact....which...by the way...all I've seen from so far is personal insults, name-calling, and a feeble attempt above to use undocumented numbers to clain that 1500 more americans will be killed. As a lib, you obviously know nothing about warfare...future casaulties will be determined by specific tactics and the will of the enemy...not by juvenile numbers averaging or pitiful attempts at projecting meaningless numbers.
Given I KNOW you've never served in our armed forces it is beyond pitiful that you would dare assume that I have not. I did my time in Nam, and I come from a 100% military family representing three branches...air force, army and marines. I am quite comfortable talking about casualities because, unlike you, I have sacrificed for my country. |
You know jack. And what you did forty years ago doesn't give you a pass for life on everything. As to my service, that's something I will only discuss in private with other combat veterans. I will not refer to those experiances in any of my posts to gain some petty credibility. I think to do so amounts to cheap exploitation and dishonors the people I served with. I will however, feel free to use this forum to discuss my son's experiances any time I like. He is a Navy Corpsman. Goes back in a couple of months for his second tour in Iraq. With a promotion and transfer to another unit. Another rifle company. Oh by the way. What did you say you were risking now? What is it again you sacrifice in Iraq. |
No response over here, huh tough guy? Big surprise. Go figure. |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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You know jack. And what you did forty years ago doesn't give you a pass for life on everything. |
I don't use what I did 40 years to get a pass. I used what I did 40 years to respond to your fake political whine about our troops. You libs pulled this same exact sh*t about concern for our troops during Nam when, in fact, you didn't give two craps about our guys...nothing but pure politics then as now.
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As to my service, that's something I will only discuss in private with other combat veterans. |
We both know that cowards like you have "nothing" to discuss when it comes to wearing the uninform for our nation and fighting for our nation.
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I will not refer to those experiances in any of my posts to gain some petty credibility. |
You have NO experiences to refer to and you have NO credibility on this issue as well as the other issues you've tried to address on this site.
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I think to do so amounts to cheap exploitation and dishonors the people I served with. |
You have NO honor....no Code...no Character...and the only people you served with were the draft dodgers on campus' or the cowardly protestors in the streets. I know you kind only too well and I can easily read between the lines and watch you expose yourself as a fraud.
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I will however, feel free to use this forum to discuss my son's experiances any time I like. He is a Navy Corpsman. |
That's right...hide behind the accomplishments of others and use their service committments/achievments to hide your fraud on this topic. In my book, you are the most disgusting kind of liberal.i.e., for the sake of promoting your lib anti-war poltics you stoop so low as to claim to have served this great nation. You people make me sick! |
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deportliberals
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| Beststash wrote: | To put it in simple terms - the American soldiers who have dies and wounded in Iraq were totally wasted. No matter how you would like to spin it - it is obvious that this administration has betrayed the trust of the American people.
Support the Troops - Bring them home NOW!!!
Peace |
This from a self-confessed abuser of alcohol who still lives with mommy.
The only thing wasted here is you, as usual. Every one of those troops is fighting for this country and against world terrorism. Osama Bin Laden has declared Iraq the centerpiece for islamic-terrorism. Al qeada leaders in iraq have also declared iraq the pivitol point for world terrorism. The only people who don't get are the america-hatin libs like you, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the rest of the subhumans that make up the world of liberalism.
In the 1930s, the world watched the american liberal establishment heap praises on Adolf Hilter and his version of socialism, which was really fascism. Now we watch today's lib establishment openly support islamic-fascism by denying it even exist.
Hey...asshole...we are killing al qeada everday in iraq. What part of that reality doesn't your little lib brain get? |
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Pibber
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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| deportliberals wrote: | | Pibber wrote: |
You know jack. And what you did forty years ago doesn't give you a pass for life on everything. |
I don't use what I did 40 years to get a pass. I used what I did 40 years to respond to your fake political whine about our troops. You libs pulled this same exact sh*t about concern for our troops during Nam when, in fact, you didn't give two craps about our guys...nothing but pure politics then as now.
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As to my service, that's something I will only discuss in private with other combat veterans. |
We both know that cowards like you have "nothing" to discuss when it comes to wearing the uninform for our nation and fighting for our nation.
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I will not refer to those experiances in any of my posts to gain some petty credibility. |
You have NO experiences to refer to and you have NO credibility on this issue as well as the other issues you've tried to address on this site.
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I think to do so amounts to cheap exploitation and dishonors the people I served with. |
You have NO honor....no Code...no Character...and the only people you served with were the draft dodgers on campus' or the cowardly protestors in the streets. I know you kind only too well and I can easily read between the lines and watch you expose yourself as a fraud.
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I will however, feel free to use this forum to discuss my son's experiances any time I like. He is a Navy Corpsman. |
That's right...hide behind the accomplishments of others and use their service committments/achievments to hide your fraud on this topic. In my book, you are the most disgusting kind of liberal.i.e., for the sake of promoting your lib anti-war poltics you stoop so low as to claim to have served this great nation. You people make me sick! |
So, you are not a combat veteran then. Don't feel bad. Some one has to serve in the rear echelon. That way you can live long enough to tell everyone what a good job we are doing. |
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deportliberals
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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So, you are not a combat veteran then. Don't feel bad. Some one has to serve in the rear echelon. That way you can live long enough to tell everyone what a good job we are doing. |
Folks...the really funny part here...is that this lib has so exposed himself/herself as a total fraud. I'd like to have a $buck for every time I've outed a lib who has falsely claimed to have served in this nation's military.
Without exception...they all use the same language(almost verbatim) as to why they won't lower themselves to talk about their military experiences, yada, yada, yada. It's like libs have a manual they follow that tells them how to lie on any web site about serving in the military.
This is just another example how libs have absolutey no respect for our military or the sacrifices our troops make. For the single purpose of lib politics, this lib has just lied out his pie hole about serving in the military.
They have no shame.... |
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Pibber
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| I guess that means you won't answer the question. Now I have to wonder about your own military bonifides. I would not have questioned your personal history. But since you have gone such a long way for such an unconvincing dodge, I have some doubts about your honesty. I was in Vietnam. If you want to discuss it privately you are still welcome to do so. If you can. |
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johnnyfontaine
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Casualties |
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| deportliberals wrote: | | Pibber wrote: |
I am pretty far from being a lib-lefist. But you believe what ever makes you feel good. And as for my agenda; much more personal than political. I am sure it's easy for some people to talk about casualties in such a detached fashion. Particularly when they risk or sacrifice nothing. |
Oh...I don't do the "feel-good" stuff where my beliefs are concerned as you suggest above. I leave that crap to the libs.
My statements are based on supportable fact....which...by the way...all I've seen from so far is personal insults, name-calling, and a feeble attempt above to use undocumented numbers to clain that 1500 more americans will be killed. As a lib, you obviously know nothing about warfare...future casaulties will be determined by specific tactics and the will of the enemy...not by juvenile numbers averaging or pitiful attempts at projecting meaningless numbers.
Given I KNOW you've never served in our armed forces it is beyond pitiful that you would dare assume that I have not. I did my time in Nam, and I come from a 100% military family representing three branches...air force, army and marines. I am quite comfortable talking about casualities because, unlike you, I have sacrificed for my country. |
Why do people bother joining forums of their opposite stance? It's not like you're going to change anything.
And I mean that quite literally. Not a single person will change their view based on your submissions. |
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