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Beststash
Mayor's Aide
Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Posts: 76
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:28 pm
Post subject: Capitalism is destroying our planet
Capitalism creates economic crises. It also creates ecological degradation. Capitalism is a system that reshapes and reconstructs nature - and destroys the environment while doing so. The thirst for profit makes environmental damage inevitable.
Capitalist firms pollute water, air and soil. Their farming methods have little regard for nature. They introduce chemicals without adequately assessing their impact on the environment, on humans and on other animals. They introduce drugs into the food chain and create disease-resistant organisms.
The culture of the car drains non-renewable fossil fuels and metals and creates gases that cause ecological damage. Global warming is increasing faster than we thought. Destructive climate changes are likely in the next decades.
Our economic policies have weakened and/or removed environmental regulations. The most powerful governments in the G8 agree that climate change is a problem caused by human activity - but they have no plan to tackle this crisis.
If current trends are not reversed, the damage capitalism has created to the entire biosphere on which we depend may be so great the planet will never recover.
Under capitalism, the road ahead is not unfettered prosperity for all. The future is capitalist barbarism - more oppression and exploitation, more poverty and inequality, more war and destruction. The environmental crisis is but one facet of a nightmare future.
The basic choice facing humanity: socialism or barbarism.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:40 am
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Captalism and free markets are the cornerstones for all human economic prosperity. As the 20th century so aptly demonstrated, gov't controlled economies are abysmal failures...communism, marxism & dictatorhsips all produced high levels of poverty, zero gdp, disease, civil unrest, low educational levels & revolutions.
By every account I've read, communism killed more human beings(100 million) in a single century(20th) than any other force known to man since recorded history. When gov't dictates market conditions, the markets fail.
Even today's democracies that practice socialism have terrible economic growth...not a one can show above 3% GDP...Britian, France & Germany can barely muster 2.5% growth...Germany has gone negative numbers off and on. Meanwhile, the U.S. shows between 3.5% & 5% routinely...we have the healtiest economy in the world...the world envies us.
The only way societies increase their standard of lviing is through the free market processes of capitalism. Only fools or communist ideologues would even attempt to argue otherwise in the face decades and decades of continuing prosperity that free markets and capitalism have provided.
Why is it that the lib-left clowns who call for the elimination of captialism still live in and enjoy the benefits of countries where capitalism is practiced??? Go live in Cuba, China, Viet Nam, etc...see what happens to your standard of living...none of you lib cowards would dare give up the benefits of capitalism & free makets...hypocrites...go live the anti-capitalist life you want the rest of us to live.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:22 am
Post subject: Re: Capitalism is destroying our planet
Beststash wrote:
The culture of the car drains non-renewable fossil fuels and metals and creates gases that cause ecological damage. Global warming is increasing faster than we thought. Destructive climate changes are likely in the next decades.
Total lies...all of it! First off...this nation sits atop massive oil reserves...our oil shale reserves ALONE are more than three times Saudi Arbia's oil reserves, according to U.S. Geological Sruvey. And, there are plenty of other sites ANWR and coastal that also hold massive oil reserves.
Out of each 44 gal barrel of crude oil we use, only 20% is refined into gasoline for our cars, trucks, etc., according to the Dept of Energy and American Refining Insitute.
As for global warming, there has been a single degree increase in temperature over the last 150 years and 60% of that one degree increase occured prior to 1940 when man-made C02 was much lower. There has been zero degree increase in temperature over the last 20 years and for the last 30 years the entire antartic region of this planet has been cooling...massive ice expansion.
There has been 600 scientifcally measured global warmings over the last 1 million years and not one of them had anything to do with mankind...all natural. Out of all the greenhouse gases only 2% is C02 and much of that is NOT man-made or comes from our cars.
Get the scientific facts folks, not the liberal scientific "consensus." Scientific consensus means NOTHING in the field of science...only provable science fact counts. And all the provable science facts show that this planet has been heating and cooling since its birth...man has nothing to do with it nor can puny man do anyting to stop it.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:14 am
Post subject: Re: Capitalism is destroying our planet
Beststash wrote:
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The environmental crisis is but one facet of a nightmare future.
The basic choice facing humanity: socialism or barbarism.[/color]
He,he,he,he,he...so socialism is the environmentally friendly way to go. Mind explaining to me why Britian, France & Germany(all are socialists countries)
who signed the Koyoto Treaty 2000 to reduce C02 reported higher C02 emissons last year than the U.S. Capitalist country that did not sign that piece garbage???
Please explain why the C02 output has gone up(not down) for the european union(socialist) countries since signing the Koyoto Treaty??? Equating socialism with better environment is pure liberal B.S.
Science fact does NOT support such an idiot comparison.
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marvinbighead
Congressional Page
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 22
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:59 pm
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Capitism is not sustanable and can only come to one conclusion,ie uninhabitable land that will gradualy increase and deserfie .It seemed like a good idea at the begining ,but time has showed us its too extreme.its nature is dog eat dog.In its early days it can hide this by sharing some of the wealth that it quickly accumulates,but as the eco system starts to go its true nature comes to the fore,ie dog eat dog.The very last dog will run around a barren earth untill he too sucumes to the toxins....Capitism is a giant piramid scheme,last ones in pay everything.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:55 am
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marvinbighead wrote:
Capitism is not sustanable and can only come to one conclusion,ie uninhabitable land that will gradualy increase and deserfie .It seemed like a good idea at the begining
Let me see if I can wake you from you coma. Capitalism has been with us since the stone age and will always be with us as along as mankind lives.
Capitalism is nothing but pure, raw human nature. Humans naturally want to trade, to spend, to gain wealth.
All the idiot liberal forms of gov't that has tried to do away with capitalism have failed and will always fail because these ideolologies(marxism, communism, fascism, maoism, socialism) cannot take away the natural human drive to acquire wealth, enjoy ownership and to have free markets.
If human can't have open capitalism, then they will have it through a black-market system. Humans will never stop practicing capitalism.
Capitalism is NOT the recent invention you claim it is. Capitalism has been with us since the beginning of human history. That you don't seem to know this tells me that you have submerged yourself in liberal propaganda. What is recent are bastard ideologies like liberalism, communism, Marxism, etc., that have failed to rid the world of capitalism because the practioners of these insane, anti-human belief systems simply don't understand human nature.
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Anonymous Mind
Mayor's Aide
Joined: 31 May 2007
Posts: 56
Location: US
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:41 am
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deportliberals wrote:
[/qoute] What is recent are bastard ideologies like liberalism, communism, Marxism, etc., that have failed to rid the world of capitalism because the practioners of these insane, anti-human belief systems simply don't understand human nature.
How can they be anti-human and non understanding of human nature?
If it were so none of them would have ever be born or prospered.
One man could not have invented communism, and then get the people to accept and even like it.
Capitalism, is trading freely thats true. But its also basically greedy bastards that find themselves in power, and deside that because they can and it will profit them they will act in such a way as to get profit only to themselves regardless of others.
Right now in Iraq oil comanies from america are in a position to aquire( and some already did) oil wells from the country.
And because they are independent companies they dont have to share the profits with Iraq, and Iraqs whole economy depends on oil.
And being a bad palce to live in now, imagine if all those oil owning companies take away their $$$ income.
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Seaside
Congressional Page
Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Posts: 10
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:50 am
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Pure capitalism results in a system with an exponentially increasing percentage of the wealth being held by an exponentially decreasing percentage of the population. Few live in incomparable decadence, the majority in poverty.
Pure socialism results in a system within which efficiency and productivity are sacrificed for the illusion of the common good. Little gets done, and even less is transferred to the common people.
Ultimately, the best system is a mixture of the two, protected by multiple checks and balances. The economic well-being of the common people needs to be artificially held above the level of poverty at which a person cannot survive, but efficiency is kept alive with a competitive market. Regulation ensures safe products but does not result in a great number of barriers.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:19 am
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Anonymous Mind wrote:
How can they be anti-human and non understanding of human nature?
I said they were anti-human in the context of NOT understanding the basic human drive to acquire and own property or things or seek wealth. The communistic-socialist ideologies strive to remove(by force if necessary) these inherit human traits. That is why communism must be practiced in a brutal police state format because human nature is just not going to step aside for man's silly illusions about what is/is not proper gov't.
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Right now in Iraq oil comanies from america are in a position to aquire( and some already did) oil wells from the country.
Iraqis are now the sole owners of their oil for the first time in 30 years. U.S. technology and resources have helped iraq develop its oil for a certain percentage. That's as it should be...no company is going to show up at some country's doorsteps and spend $millions in technology, manpower and know-how for free. Britian and France have also provided technical expertise to iraq and other countries to help extract oil for a profit. Both benefit....the country with the oil resources and the companies
who help develop those resources.
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JT
Congressional Page
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 35
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:47 am
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Seaside wrote:
Pure capitalism results in a system with an exponentially increasing percentage of the wealth being held by an exponentially decreasing percentage of the population. Few live in incomparable decadence, the majority in poverty.
Pure socialism results in a system within which efficiency and productivity are sacrificed for the illusion of the common good. Little gets done, and even less is transferred to the common people.
Ultimately, the best system is a mixture of the two, protected by multiple checks and balances. The economic well-being of the common people needs to be artificially held above the level of poverty at which a person cannot survive, but efficiency is kept alive with a competitive market. Regulation ensures safe products but does not result in a great number of barriers.
O.K but there is a lot of room in that "mixture of the two" area. Walter Cronkite -the big lib - has said something to the effect that the ideal is the "promised land" between Communism and Capitalism. His "mixture of the two" is to the left of what I think is ideal. Western Europe is too far to the left. America has proven to be the best engine for human advancement in the history of the earth. Disagree and you would define yourself as a liberal.
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Neal
Congressional Page
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Posts: 3
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:50 pm
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Points to USSR, North Vietnam, North Korea, China (which has had MASSIVE environmental problems, mainly due to their communist economy), East Germany
I could go on for hours. Shall I stop?
Note: I only joined these forums to respond to your ridiculous ideas.
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