The Presdential war

Skeptik · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 20

McCain has declared that he will pursue the same policies as the Buffoon Bush . Maybe he has no option since he has to behave like a republican even if he doesn’t want to. But can anyone imagine the damage he can do to the people of US? The economy is dangerously close to recession. More like Bush playing golf while US burns. The problem is that there is no alternative. Obama is no great alternative to vote for. Sometimes he seems to be worse than even McCain which speaks volumes for the state of US politics. It is more like choosing the fire or the frying pan.

Skeptik · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 20

No one seems to be interested ,still I am carrying on nonetheless .I read somewhere that all American presidents have been tall and athletic . Therefore the argument was that leaders should be tall and athletic. Bullcrap . No American can be called a leader . For that matter Bush is actually a joke who goes around playing golf and uttering inane stuff which embarrasses everyone except the Americans. That’s why he is lampooned only in late night shows( lest others come to know the truth). And we are talking about leadership? Bah. Must admit we have the guts to live with this enormous joke called Bush. Where does Obama fit into all this. Dunno. I just cant imagine this guy becoming the President. If we do land up with a joker I would prefer a white one ,for sure.

lookin · Congressional Page Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 22

Your use of the word 'joke' is itself a joke and has started grating . Why don't you just shut up and let Bush do his thing. Don't you know that Americans are suffering the most because of the energy crisis and economic downturn. Most of us can't even afford a Big Mac any longer . Imagine the whole world ....I mean us Americans losing weight? What a colossal loss . And you are beating around the Bush. Wake up and smell the coffee .

kimster · Congressional Page Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 1

http://hypocrisy.com/2008/05/04/the-politics-of-hypocrisy-mccain-slips-out-from-under-his-rock/

This is for all of you that DO NOT want McCain as our President.

berendei · Congressional Page Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 9

American leadership has become an oxymoron. I wish somebody would stand up and say what they really believe! Presidential politics has been hijacked by big business and special interests. Look at Bush this week for example. Drilling for oil off Florida? Gee, do you think the oil lobby had anything to do with this? A real leader would stand up and admit that oil is a DEMAND problem and not a supply issue. Come on Barack, do you have any guts? How about an alternative energy initiative somebody?

Kontrarian · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 19

It is the system which stinks. The two party systems stinks. The whole gingbang stinks. That’s why we have guys like Bush out there dictating terms when he should have been put in an asylum long while ago. I guess we are stuck with it . But can someone tell me if there can be only two kinds of political animals : Liberal and otherwise? Cant there be someone who is Kontrarian? Where is the place for other political groups ? we have only black and white ,whereas the world has all shades of grey. It is either change or die. Which is your poison?

Skeptik · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 20

Hmmm. Can’t have anything else but a two party system, buddy. The English have already cornered the multiple party system and as far as I know there is no single party system . We have to live with this system whether we like it or not. And who says this is bad ? Look at the British . They are blundering as much as us . Worse. They don’t even know what they are doing . Their so called leaders follow our cue. Multi party system means multi problems .Who knows what might happen then. We might land up with a black as President . Wouldn’t that be a shame?

lookin · Congressional Page Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 22

We need reforms .Our political system is skewed towards the rich. You need lotsa dough to stand for elections. Where is the place for the common man? Ours is a democracy for the rich , of the rich and by the rich. How else do you explain the whole thing? And we go on and on about equality. I feel nauseated when I see these cartoon characters posing as presidents. The other chap just ran around tail like there was no tomorrow. The present one is not even capable of that. Whew. What a mess?

Kontrarian · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 19

Grass on the other side is Greener . We should not be looking at other governments and say "hey, they are smarter" becos they are not. We have a two party system( for all practical purposes ) and we better make the best out of it. It is the money which is spoiling the system. Big businesses are funding both the groups and they become puppets in their hands. That's where the problem lies. One can have umpteen parties and still land up in the same mess . So ,what do we do then? There ought to be a solution from within.

lookin · Congressional Page Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 22

Lets accept that America is built on business. Remember that guy saying “ The business of America is business” . Big money has always been given a godly status by us. Our love for greenbacks is eternal. And the link between money and politics is absolute. They are inseparable twins. If we shave off one the other will die . The whole of America will be on fire if we try to meddle with the money angle . All the Bushes will not be able to put it together again. So it is best to lie down and take it when Bush wants to push . It is his birthright . He was born with a silver spoon.

Skeptik · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 20

Who says money can’t be taken out of our political system? It is the poison which has got in for all the wrong reasons. We must have a limit for the expenditure on political expenses. Say a maximum of five million dollars or whatever . No one party can accept more than this sum. Then you watch what happens. Bushes and cartels would just disappear. The silver spoon has to be taken out of Bushes mouth and shoved where it actually belongs. We cannot lie back and take it as you suggest . We have to fight for our future generations .

Kontrarian · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 19

Hey there. It is not that simple. The big business are too well entrenched to allow this to happen. Don't think they will twiddle their thumb while we take away their bread. I suspect the Iraq war itself was partly because of the weapon cartel. Only if there is a war will their products sell. Lots of missiles, guns and ammunition. The guys must be salivating out there. Do you think they will stop at anything? Money is the biggest political oil which keeps the machine working smoothly . Remember we are a capitalist country . This means we believe in big business ideology, isn’t it?

lookin · Congressional Page Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 22

I think everyone is missing the point. Ours is a capitalist country. It is our forefathers who decided that we should be so. And up till now our setup has worked. Look at the communists. The great USSR broke up because of corruption. What is the point in controlling everything. In our society anyone can become rich if they have the will. Now this aspect (of money) has seeped into politics. I agree this is not a great thing. But it is better than other options . At least we have choice , though it may be a Hobson’s choice.

Skeptik · Congressional Page Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 20

There is a huge difference between a free society and profligate one. The problem with us is that we don’t want to recognize that a problem exists. We keep on spending like there is no tomorrow. Look at the housing loan meltdown. Who asked these banks to offer loans to guys who can’t dream of returning the interest let alone the principal? The sub prime crisis is an example of the way we conduct business. We have thrown away caution to the wind. It is the same with our politics. All this Iraq and Afghanistan is a waste of our resources , precious resources . But who is listening?

lookin · Congressional Page Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 22

I agree with your comments . But we need moderation not a radical change . We most probably have the best democratic setup in the world. There are some warts and moles but which system is free of defects. The need of the hour is moderation in our thinking ,moderation in spending and moderation in our aggression . The reason we are stuck in Iraq is not because of anything but our own arrogance. We have to admit that the rules of the game have changed and we must act accordingly. We can no longer afford to be bullies.