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schatzi
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Joined: 20 Oct 2006
Posts: 59
Location: Germany
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:47 am
Post subject: Unemployed receive help from the State?
It was in the first time that 2006 is the highest record of unemployment in Germany. Five million unemployed.
Why?
I think one reason is the state helps the people to be lazy enough. When you are unemployed here, you receive money for living, if you only rent an apartment, the state paid. If you asked some of the unemployed, why look not for job? then they answered, I don?t need to work if I gain 50? more than what I receive from the state.
How about in your state? Got the same system?
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julian4239
Mayor
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 211
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:50 pm
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Is Merkel your Prime Minister? I thought her party is a bit more friendly to laissez-faire economics.
Interesting.
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montage_
Congressional Page
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 14
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:00 am
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It varies from state to state in the US, but North Carolina (I BELIEVE it's NC, someone correct me if I'm wrong) has the best welfare policy I know of: you get 2 years for welfare. That is it. You can use it to pull yourself up on your feet, you can spread it out and get 2 months of assistance here, 10 months there, and another year later on, it doesn't matter. Once you use your two years, you're done. I think this is the best system because 2 years is enough time to get out of debt, enough time to get an associate's degree or go to trade school, even enough time to get an entry-level job and save up money. Since you only get 2 years, people don't have the opportunity to abuse the system and live off of it, but they have the chance to better themselves. I wish all states had this policy.
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julian4239
Mayor
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Posts: 211
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:34 pm
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montage_ wrote:
It varies from state to state in the US, but North Carolina (I BELIEVE it's NC, someone correct me if I'm wrong) has the best welfare policy I know of: you get 2 years for welfare. That is it. You can use it to pull yourself up on your feet, you can spread it out and get 2 months of assistance here, 10 months there, and another year later on, it doesn't matter. Once you use your two years, you're done. I think this is the best system because 2 years is enough time to get out of debt, enough time to get an associate's degree or go to trade school, even enough time to get an entry-level job and save up money. Since you only get 2 years, people don't have the opportunity to abuse the system and live off of it, but they have the chance to better themselves. I wish all states had this policy.
I love that idea. This makes too much sense. I'm sure on the Federal level, they'd never implement this. We have too many entitlements.
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schatzi
Mayor's Aide
Joined: 20 Oct 2006
Posts: 59
Location: Germany
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:50 am
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We are hoping that the system of our recent regime, would change. This is a good idea that the unenployed will be given a maximum time of receiving support from the government.
I admit that it is really unfair for thouse who are working because a big amount will be deduct just to give to the unemployed.
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classyred
Mayor's Aide
Joined: 14 Dec 2006
Posts: 68
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:51 pm
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I am from north Carolina and that sounds about right, but the sad thing is that people do still tend to push the rules, i think no matter what policy is in place people will take advantage and see what they can get out of a situation.
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marvinbighead
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Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 22
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:55 pm
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When it comes to figures of unenployed,america cooks the books..When someone is thrown off welfare(time limit) or is not eligable or their is no welfare program in place.,,they are not counted as unemployed.Which is pure deception.The Europeans on the other hand not only count these people but help them as well.Americans are just cold when it comes to helping the inept and poor souls....3 million sleep on the streets tonight in one country and you guys who vote for that are not going to get into heaven.
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deportliberals
Congressman
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 704
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:46 am
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marvinbighead wrote:
When it comes to figures of unenployed,america cooks the books..When someone is thrown off welfare(time limit) or is not eligable or their is no welfare program in place.,,they are not counted as unemployed.
Unemployment statistics and welfare statistics are two different animals. You have stupidly co-mingled them to make another of your ignorant comments.
Unemployment stats are developed from both employer & employees reporting an unemployment status. Welfare doesn't enter into it!!!
There are millions of people who a fully employed and are also drawing welfare benefits. There are also millions of people who are unemployed and are drawing welfare benefits. Welfare IS NOT THE MEASUREMENT BY WHICH YOU DETERMINE WHO IS AND WHO IS NOT WORKING IN THIS COUNTRY OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY!!! When somone loses welfare benefits it doesn't mean they are unemployed as you claim above.
Furthermore, there should be NO SUCH THING as welfare. YOu can't find any reference anywhere in our constitution about gov't taxing certain groups of citizens to give that money to other groups of citizen. This is one of the major reasons why George Washington and our founders took up arms against Britian in the late 1700s. If our founders were alive today they would immediately toss out every welfare program that the idiot liberals have saddled this nation with.
As for being unemployed...no one in this nation is owed a friggin' job. It is up to you to make yourself employable and seek work. If you're too busy being a screwup, or a school dropout, or committing crime or practicing any behaviors that would make you unemployable, DON'T TELL ME THAT I OWE YOU SOMETHING IN THIS LIFE OR THAT I MUST PAY HIGHER TAXES SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE WELFARE since you(others) were screwups and just couldn't cut it.
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Which is pure deception.The Europeans on the other hand not only count these people but help them as well.Americans are just cold when it comes to helping the inept and poor souls....3 million sleep on the streets tonight in one country and you guys who vote for that are not going to get into heaven.
Europeans have NO economy! France, Britian, Germany, Spain, etc have not had even 3% GDP growth for decades because these gov'ts take $billions out of their economies in the form of taxes and piss that money away on huge, massive welfare systems. The U.S., on the other hand, has
a huge economy that grows better than 3.5% to 5% for decades.
BTW...the so-called war on poverty was started back in 1968 by the LIBERAL Johnson administration. New, massive welfare programs were put in place by the liberals. What has all this spending accomplished over the last 40 years....NOTHING...today's poverty rate is exactly the same as it was when we started all this insane spending back in 1968. And...what do you idiot liberals want to do...spend more friggin money. This is why you must be thrown out of power before you destroy this nation's economy.
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