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We Never Went to the Moon
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deportliberals
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Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Scott"]
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It's a great way of analyzing footage. It exposed the hoax.


Wrong...it's a great way for america-haters to create falsehoods to support anti-american propaganda. Why don't you guys run at three times normal speed...maybe you'll Stalin or Lenin or Marx riding horses in the background??? Six Moon landings and 20,000 NASA employees, Russia, France & Britian all say you're full of sh*t...so does 99.9% of America.

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If you really believe what you said, you're not mentally equipped to deal with these types of topics.


Oh...believe me...you've made it abundantely clear who is "not mentally equipped" at this website, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha....
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Scott
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Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You haven't analyzed the footage in question. You've only expressed scorn for it. It went off-line anyway. Here's a similar situation.

At about the twenty minute mark in this video the same thing is presented.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736

When the footage is played at double speed, the astronauts are moving exactly as they would move in earth gravity.


This is a better version of a video that is in the first post of this thread.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5278489814268946247

What do you think about the part where he analyzes the soil kicked up by the lunar rover?
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openly moderate
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Joined: 18 May 2007
Posts: 16
Location: Scenic Sunny Southern California

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott, the self described congressional page, is playing a joke on you - just having fun messing with your heads. I am sure he's grinning like a Cheshire cat right now at all the fuss.


Laughing
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Scott
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Joined: 22 Mar 2007
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured he was someone suffering from invincible ignorance or congnitive dissonance.

http://www.cuyamaca.edu/bruce.thompson/fallacies/invincible_ignorance.asp

http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/dissonance.htm

If there weren't any viewers, I wouldn't take the time to debate with this guy. I just see this as an opportunity to post more info for the viewers to see. These posts I make don't take very much of my time.

I was wondering if this guy was a shill.
http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

Shills usually don't act so dumb though; it would destroy their credibility.
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deportliberals
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

openly moderate wrote:
Scott, the self described congressional page, is playing a joke on you - just having fun messing with your heads. I am sure he's grinning like a Cheshire cat right now at all the fuss.


Laughing


I believe that is what Scott wants everyone to believe...thought has crossed my mind. However, I've read enough of his crap to know that he is dead-on serious. In a number of arguments he has revealed his true self and his sources give a clear picture about his sincerity.

If you ever get an opportunity to see one of these wackos being interviewed by the mainstream media, they behave just as Scott does...childish, make-believe responses to simple questions accompanied by their constant ranting rambling theories.
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Scott
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you ever get an opportunity to see one of these wackos being interviewed by the mainstream media, they behave just as Scott does...childish, make-believe responses to simple questions accompanied by their constant ranting rambling theories.


Anti-establishment pundits like these guys are never allowed to talk in the mainstream media.

http://www.chomsky.info/
http://www.rebelion.org/petrasenglish.htm
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/William_Blum.html
http://www.zmag.org/bios/homepage.cfm?authorID=72
http://www.michaelparenti.org/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=listByAuthor&authorFirst=Michel%20&authorName=Chossudovsky

If these guys were to debate with those Sunday pundits on American TV, those Sunday pundits would get eaten for lunch. In the American mainstream media debate is kept between narrow limits. These guys would go way beyond the limits into reality and Americans would become as informed as most non-Americans are.
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openly moderate
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Joined: 18 May 2007
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Location: Scenic Sunny Southern California

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott, you poor misguided young man.
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Scott
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Joined: 22 Mar 2007
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nice to have you here openly-moderate. I've been living abroad since 93 and I'm a bit out-of-touch with what Americans are thinking these days. I figured with internet a lot of them would be getting informed. Tell me--are people more informed than they were fifteen years ago?
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James Rottnek
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Proof we didn't go. Reply with quote

The flag waves. Is there gravity on the moon (I know there is some but enough for the flag to wave?)? No. There is not that much. Scietists in several political parties and from multiple nations have said that teh excuses that the US government has given us for the flag's waving are insufficient. Also, a leading NASA engineer, at the time, said that we did not have the technology to go to the moon at that point. The austronauts would have gotten terrible illness.
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deportliberals
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Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Proof we didn't go. Reply with quote

James Rottnek wrote:
The flag waves. Is there gravity on the moon (I know there is some but enough for the flag to wave?)? No. There is not that much. Scietists in several political parties and from multiple nations have said that teh excuses that the US government has given us for the flag's waving are insufficient. Also, a leading NASA engineer, at the time, said that we did not have the technology to go to the moon at that point. The austronauts would have gotten terrible illness.


Once again...Mr Clueless chimes in with lies and rumors. BTW, there is infact gravity on the moon. Next time find out how much gravity before opening your mouth.

And...here we go again...what NASA engineer made such utterly absurd claims??? See folks, america-haters just make up sh*t thinking they are not going to held accountable for the garbage they spew!
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James Rottnek
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone on National Geoghraphic channel who was a former NASA engineer said this. Also, I said there was some gravity, not enough to efectively wave the flag, however.
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deportliberals
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Rottnek wrote:
Someone on National Geoghraphic channel who was a former NASA engineer said this. Also, I said there was some gravity, not enough to efectively wave the flag, however.


If you can't provide a name so I can check out your claim all you have is rumor, period!

And, the flag didn't wave, it moved. The moon has 1/6 the gravity of earth. Ojects move and float and twist in that environment. Stop the lying!!!
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Cicero
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No body actually knows the truth.So we can call it Pseudo truth. Ill say that we visited moon first Very Happy We couldnt find video editing softwares in the 60s could we?
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RageD
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Joined: 02 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deportliberals wrote:
If any nation, power or ideology on this planet had the incentive and overwhelming desire to say to the world that the U.S. never went to the moon and never landed on the moon, it would be the Soviet Union...who was left with mud on their face over this technological accomplishment.


I agree 110% with deportliberals on this issue. To the U.S.S.R (obviously the name cold-war Russia) and communists this was a great defeat. This shows their space program was behind that of the United States'. Americans did indeed make it to the moon and back successfully.

-RageD
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Scott
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Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the dirt being kicked up by the lunar rover at the 22 second mark in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npARfNtO7u8
The footage of the rover was taken on earth. The dirt kicked up doesn't follow a parabolic trajectory as it would on in a vacuum.

This is discussed in this video at the time mark shown.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5278489814268946247
28 minute 55 second mark

There is a clip of the rover footage played here at double speed; it looks just like earth to me.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736&q=apollo
21minute 10 second mark
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