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deportliberals
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| Scott wrote: | Look at the dirt being kicked up by the lunar rover at the 22 second mark in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npARfNtO7u8
The footage of the rover was taken on earth. The dirt kicked up doesn't follow a parabolic trajectory as it would on in a vacuum.
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Hey, stupid...it's a vacuum WITH GRAVITY!!!! As long as there is any kind of G-force(gravity) present when the surface of a planet/moon is disturbed it will react in virtually the same manner as it would here on earth...a simple dispersal pattern will be seen. How stupid can you be???? We've got plenty of photos of astriods hitting planets that look exactly like a bomb going off due to the way G-forces disperse debris even in a vacuum environment, as you so stupidly put it.
Now...go back to your little video and run it on all kinds of silly speeds to make it do things that only you and your fellow america-hatin' idiots can see. Interesting that you and your fellow gasbags still can't offer a single reasonable response as to how 20,000 NASA engineers, scientists, workers, were not aware that six moon landings were fake. These fake moon landings that had to involve the astronauts, engineers and other workers has got to be the best kept secret in the history of the world...not one person from any of the moon projects ever came forward to tell the truth, huh????
And, you still have not been able to give a reasonable response as to why all the advanced nations with radar and hi-tech tracking technology never came forward to tell the world that the U.S. never sent a man to the moon.
All you turds can do is run old videos at various speeds and make believe you see something that is not there and/or offer utterly asinine junk science claims that are easily exposed as total bullsh*t on a platter. |
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Scott
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SunDragon
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: Logic |
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What most people don't understand about conspiracy theories is how to evaluate them. There's four simple steps to do so:
1. Look for evidence
2. Determine the falsifiability of evidence
3. Determine the motivation behind the actors and potential actors
4. Weigh the cost of falsification versus benefit of falsification.
So yes, chances are most of the moon landings took place because the cost of falsifiability is tremendous. But in evaluating this, at least try to keep in mind the motivation behind all the major actors. The scientists have a motive to keep their job if asked to be silent. As do well, basically everyone who makes a living related to the moon landing. And then most importantly, both the US and the USSR had a powerful motive to pretend the moon landing took place. They were in an expensive, exorbitant, cold war that involved tremendous expenses in the research of weapons, production of weapons, and sending of money and forces overseas in proxy wars. (which of course also brings into question the true strength of our and their nuclear arsenal, another conspiracy theory) To dismiss a conspiracy theory just because its difficult is as stupid as the those who argue for their dismissal. What is critical is the comparison of the cost of keeping silent versus the benefit of keeping people silent. |
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Scott
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So yes, chances are most of the moon landings took place because the cost of falsifiability is tremendous. |
This should be considered but there are so many plausible scenarios that this can't be used as conclusive proof. Footage and still pictures released by the government can be used as conclusive proof.
If the scenario doesn't seem logical, there may be factors we don't know about. The bottom line is what the video evidence shows us. |
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Scott
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott wrote: | Look at the dirt being kicked up by the lunar rover at the 22 second mark in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npARfNtO7u8
The footage of the rover was taken on earth. The dirt kicked up doesn't follow a parabolic trajectory as it would on in a vacuum.
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Scott.
I'm having a hard time making sense of the rooster tails.....without an atmosphere, what's creating the wavelike patterns......there should only be a fairly clean arc which would imply no resistance from an atmosphere. |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| deportliberals wrote: | | Scott wrote: | Look at the dirt being kicked up by the lunar rover at the 22 second mark in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npARfNtO7u8
The footage of the rover was taken on earth. The dirt kicked up doesn't follow a parabolic trajectory as it would on in a vacuum.
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Hey, stupid...it's a vacuum WITH GRAVITY!!!! As long as there is any kind of G-force(gravity) present when the surface of a planet/moon is disturbed it will react in virtually the same manner as it would here on earth...a simple dispersal pattern will be seen. How stupid can you be???? We've got plenty of photos of astriods hitting planets that look exactly like a bomb going off due to the way G-forces disperse debris even in a vacuum environment, as you so stupidly put it.
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2 things, could you show me some of these photo's, and also, what's with the persistent ad hom?
I think you and the others have probably hurled as many as 20+ ad homs at Scott?.....why is discussing the moon landings a forbidden topic? |
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Scott
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Scott, I'll get back to you on Sunday  |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott wrote: |
I learned that I was mistaken about the rooster tails while I was talking on another forum.
Still, if we look at the trajectory of the lower part of the rooster tail in the video, it doesn't fall at the same speed at which it is launched. Atmosphere is slowing it down.
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Scott...if atmosphere is playing a role, then how could the rover be on the moon?....the moon has no atmosphere and subsequently no weather.
This is bizarre, because some of the other footage[inconsistent shadows, the take off, the blue patches of sky in "outer space"], all make me doubt the truth of the moon landings. |
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PoliticalRef
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Impossible |
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| I'm always amazed at the level of conspiracy some are willing to contemplate. Can you imagine how remarkably difficult pulling this off would be? |
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alias
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Impossible |
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| PoliticalRef wrote: | | I'm always amazed at the level of conspiracy some are willing to contemplate. Can you imagine how remarkably difficult pulling this off would be? |
It helps to be paranoid. That makes it a lot easier to believe. |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Impossible |
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| PoliticalRef wrote: | | I'm always amazed at the level of conspiracy some are willing to contemplate. Can you imagine how remarkably difficult pulling this off would be? |
Difficult, but not impossible, lol. |
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Scott
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